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{{DISPLAYTITLE:Nvidia Pascal GPU Diagnosing Guide}} '''''This guide is applicable for most pascal cards from 1060 to the 1080ti, some vendors may create different PCBs or use different components but the general working principles for all of them should be the same unless specified. This guide uses a reference GTX 1080 as an example.''''' ''Have any questions? Need help with a specific GPU problem? Post to [https://www.reddit.com/r/GPURepair/ /r/GPURepair]!'' == The Card Layout == [[File:GTX 1080.jpg|none|thumb|600x600px|GTX 1080 Reference board (Figure 1)]] ''*PCB Image courtesy of [https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080/ TechPowerUp]*'' Before doing anything, it's a good idea to inspect the card for physical damage. Especially cards that have no backplate. They can easily lose some components on the back due to poor handling. After making sure there is no physical damage to the card itself you can now move on with a multimeter to check the resistances of the voltage rails. == Step 1: Base Voltage Rails (12V, 3.3V) == The base voltages are the ones that get supplied to the card through the motherboard and the external 8pin power connector(s). [[What are the Base Voltage rails for GPUs?]] === 12V rails === The card gets supplied 12v through the PCIe slot and additional 6-8 pin connector(s) Start by measuring the resistances of the 12V rail coming from the PCIe slot (first 3 pins, see figure 1). After that, measure each inductor for external power connectors (some cards have multiple external power connector and each of them have their own inductor you have to measure each of them individually). The resistance varies from card to card and the value itself doesn't matter but it should be in the thousands+ Ω range. If you get 50Ω or less then you most likely have a short on the card. Solution: Check out this page dedicated to [[Base Voltage Rail Short on Pascal GPUs]]. === 3.3V rail === The card gets 3.3V from the PCIe slot only, from the 4th pin going left from the PCIe key notch in the front, and 2nd and 3rd pins on the back going from the notch again. If you get less than 50Ω on one or multiple base rails then you have a card with a short. The computer might not turn on in such a case because the power supply is protecting itself using OCP (over current protection). Solution: Check out this page dedicated to [[Base Voltage Rail Short on Pascal GPUs]]. Otherwise, if you have no short then you can continue troubleshooting. == Step 2: Minor Voltage rails. (5V, 1.8V, VCore, VMem, and PEX) == Minor voltage rails are the ones created by the card itself using the base rails through either [[wikipedia:Linear_regulator|Linear Voltage Regulators]] or [[wikipedia:Buck_converter|Step Down Buck Converter]] Check the resistance of the output of those rails and compare them with Figure 1. VCore has such a low resistance on 1000+ series cards that you won't find it useful to measure its resistance. A more helpful way is to measure its resistance against the 12v rails not GND. If you get lower resistance on one or more of those rails, head to their pages linked below. Otherwise, continue with the guide. == Step 3: Powering on the card == Assuming you have no shorts anywhere you can go ahead and plug the card into the motherboard and start testing (Alternatively, you can use a Lab Bench Power Supply and a riser to test the card with. Safer for the motherboard and gives you more freedom to move the card around and you get to know the current draw of the card if there is a short). Switch your multimeter to DC Voltage mode and start by measuring the base rails first, if they are present continue to the minor rails. Minor rails turn on in series, if one doesn't start, the next ones in series will not turn on. === Power sequence === The order in which they turn on in most pascal GPUs is as follows: '''5V→ 1.8V→ VCore→ VMem/PEX.''' For example, if 5v does not turn on, everything else in the chain won't turn on either. Hence no fan spin if you have a problem with 5V or 1.8V. If you're missing one of them, check their respective page: * [[5V Rail on Pascal GPUs.]] * [[1.8V Rail on Pascal GPUs.]] * [[Vcore Rail on Pascal GPUs.]] * [[Vmem Rail on Pascal GPUs.]] * [[PEX Rail on Pascal GPUs.]] == Step 4: No Video Out == Everything is present but still no video out? You either have faulty Memory, Bios, GPU chip itself, or in some cases a problem with straps. === Memory problems === If you've reached this point, the most likely culprit is the Memory. You can confirm this by powering on the card on the motherboard and plugging it in to the monitor, after a minute or so the monitor's backlight should turn on but without an image. That behavior means the card initialized but detected a memory failure. Here: [[Nvidia Memory Testing Guide|Nvidia Memory Testing Guide.]] is how to detect the faulty memory chips. === BIOS problems === If the memory is okay or the card is not even being detected in MATS then the problem is highly likely to be the bios. Check: [[BIOS Problems on Pascal GPUs]]. === Straps === Assuming there is no physical damage to the resistors, check their values out side the circuit. Sometimes *rarely* they change in value. Below is their location (figure 2) and their schematic (figure 3). [[File:Straps location 1080.jpg|none|thumb|350x350px|GTX 1080 Straps location on the board. (Figure 2)]] [[File:Straps schematic gtx 1080.jpg|none|thumb|350x350px|Schematic view of 1080 straps (Figure 3)]] === Crystal Oscillator === Often marked with Y followed by a number, crystal oscillators sometimes fail which will lead to the card not booting up. [[File:Pascal crystal oscillator .jpg|none|thumb|Location of the crystal oscillator on a reference GTX 1080 (Figure 4)]] In most if not all Pascal GPUs, the frequency of the oscillator is 27MHZ. An oscilloscope or a multimeter with Hz function that can go above 27MHZ is needed to test it. === Dead PCIE data lanes === If the card has been used for mining, there is a chance that the miner has inserted the riser backwards which can fry the first PCIE data lane inside the core. [https://youtu.be/nMs4xI4PWKQ This video explains it more with a potential fix.] === Dead Core === If everything else is working as they should but still no video out then unfortunately you have a faulty GPU core. Best use for that card is as spare parts since getting hold of a GPU chip by itself is very hard and expensive and replacing it is a very advanced procedure that requires a BGA rework station and it's out of reach for many people. == Step 5: GPU outputs a picture == perhaps the card does output a picture but it is not working properly, here are the common problems and their potential fixes. === Artifacting === Artifacting is most often caused by memory problems, check [[Nvidia Memory Testing Guide]] if you do not get memory errors even after 100+MB test in MATS then the core is very likely to be the issue. === Error 43 === just like artifacting, error 43 can be caused by faulty memory or core but also BIOS and straps. Start by making sure the memory is fine as shown in the guide above, then check if the BIOS is not corrupted/modded (flash original bios from either TPU library or manufacturer's site) and check the bios circuit as shown here: [[BIOS Problems on Pascal GPUs|BIOS Problems with pascal GPUs]] After that if the problem persists, check the strap resistors, they can either get knocked off or change in value which will trigger error 43. If everything is fine but the error persists then the core itself is damaged. [[Category:Graphics_cards]] {{DEFAULTSORT:Nvidia_Pascal_GPU_Diagnosing_Guide}}