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== Potential pitfalls ==
== Potential pitfalls ==
The motherboard will not turn on without the I/O SubCard connected. Actually it will turn on and then immediately assert -PWRSHUTDOWN, which will cause the first mosfet (Q9) to go off. This is most likely because the subcard has a power switch or regulator on it that is turned on by the VCC5MUBAY_DRV signal, and then the EC expects VCC5MUBAY to go high, and when it doesn't see it go high, it assumes something is wrong and turns off. Temporarily shorting TP28(VCC5M_IO_PWR-) to TP29(VCC5MUBAY) allows the motherboard to turn on even without the I/O SubCard. When flashing the BIOS using a SOIC clip, the programmer device needs to strongly drive the HOLD# pin high. A 5.6kOhm pull-up was not strong enough. A dead short worked successfully. The 4MiB and 8MiB BIOS flash chips share MISO/MOSI/SCK lines. When programming them using a SOIC clip, it has been observed that often the CS# line of the other chip has a low enough voltage and that the other chip could be considered selected as well. This did not cause a reading/programming failure so far, but if any issues are observed in the future, then it may be worth forcing the CS# line of the other chip high.
* The motherboard will not turn on without the I/O SubCard connected. Actually it will turn on and then immediately assert -PWRSHUTDOWN, which will cause the first mosfet (Q9) to go off. This is most likely because the subcard has a power switch or regulator on it that is turned on by the VCC5MUBAY_DRV signal, and then the EC expects VCC5MUBAY to go high, and when it doesn't see it go high, it assumes something is wrong and turns off. Temporarily shorting TP28(VCC5M_IO_PWR-) to TP29(VCC5MUBAY) allows the motherboard to turn on even without the I/O SubCard.
* When flashing the BIOS using a SOIC clip, the programmer device needs to strongly drive the HOLD# pin high. A 5.6kOhm pull-up was not strong enough. A dead short worked successfully.
* The 4MiB and 8MiB BIOS flash chips share MISO/MOSI/SCK lines. When programming them using a SOIC clip, it has been observed that often the CS# line of the other chip has a low enough voltage and that the other chip could be considered selected as well. This did not cause a reading/programming failure so far, but if any issues are observed in the future, then it may be worth forcing the CS# line of the other chip high.


==Guides==
==Guides==

Revision as of 02:51, 28 December 2023

Thinkpad W541
Manufacturer Lenovo
Code name W541
Release date
Device type Laptop


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Potential pitfalls

  • The motherboard will not turn on without the I/O SubCard connected. Actually it will turn on and then immediately assert -PWRSHUTDOWN, which will cause the first mosfet (Q9) to go off. This is most likely because the subcard has a power switch or regulator on it that is turned on by the VCC5MUBAY_DRV signal, and then the EC expects VCC5MUBAY to go high, and when it doesn't see it go high, it assumes something is wrong and turns off. Temporarily shorting TP28(VCC5M_IO_PWR-) to TP29(VCC5MUBAY) allows the motherboard to turn on even without the I/O SubCard.
  • When flashing the BIOS using a SOIC clip, the programmer device needs to strongly drive the HOLD# pin high. A 5.6kOhm pull-up was not strong enough. A dead short worked successfully.
  • The 4MiB and 8MiB BIOS flash chips share MISO/MOSI/SCK lines. When programming them using a SOIC clip, it has been observed that often the CS# line of the other chip has a low enough voltage and that the other chip could be considered selected as well. This did not cause a reading/programming failure so far, but if any issues are observed in the future, then it may be worth forcing the CS# line of the other chip high.

Guides